What would you do if you were the head of Runescape?

[Jacky]

Why doesn't it excuse it?

[reepicheep]

Why doesn't it excuse it?

Because the concept behind it is wrong and player-unfriendly.

[Jacky]

You pay real life money to gain an advantage. Thats the bad concept.

Yet you think bonds are good?

Edited November 3, 2013 by Jacky

[reepicheep]

You pay real life money to gain an advantage. Thats the bad concept.

Yet you think bonds are good?

That was in response to your argument about how it could reduce botting. I was arguing that bonds were significantly more effective than the SoF in reducing botting. I didn't call it good.

 

That being said, I think bonds are preferable to gold farmers. But that's a different discussion altogether.

[Jacky]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Edited November 3, 2013 by Jacky

[reepicheep]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

[Jacky]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

Maybe in the last year now that botting, gamblers have been cleared up. But prior to that it was terrible. Not a great community for someone starting up, mind.

[reepicheep]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

Maybe in the last year now that botting, gamblers have been cleared up. But prior to that it was terrible. Not a great community for someone starting up, mind.

Botting and gambling made up some part of the Runescape community. It'd be silly to say that while there were still many bots and gamblers everybody joined in.

[Jacky]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

Maybe in the last year now that botting, gamblers have been cleared up. But prior to that it was terrible. Not a great community for someone starting up, mind.

Botting and gambling made up some part of the Runescape community. It'd be silly to say that while there were still many bots and gamblers everybody joined in.

It poisoned Runescape, as it affected the whole economy, produced extra competition for resources, and gamblers spammed the GE. The thought of gambling to become rich on RS didnt suit me

[reepicheep]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

Maybe in the last year now that botting, gamblers have been cleared up. But prior to that it was terrible. Not a great community for someone starting up, mind.

Botting and gambling made up some part of the Runescape community. It'd be silly to say that while there were still many bots and gamblers everybody joined in.

It poisoned Runescape, as it affected the whole economy, produced extra competition for resources, and gamblers spammed the GE. The thought of gambling to become rich on RS didnt suit me

And it probably didn't suit many people. Gamblers and bots were a problem, but they were only a part of Runescape. There are and were always plenty of reputable scapers, and they were probably the majority.

[Jacky]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

Maybe in the last year now that botting, gamblers have been cleared up. But prior to that it was terrible. Not a great community for someone starting up, mind.

Botting and gambling made up some part of the Runescape community. It'd be silly to say that while there were still many bots and gamblers everybody joined in.

It poisoned Runescape, as it affected the whole economy, produced extra competition for resources, and gamblers spammed the GE. The thought of gambling to become rich on RS didnt suit me

And it probably didn't suit many people. Gamblers and bots were a problem, but they were only a part of Runescape. There are and were always plenty of reputable scapers, and they were probably the majority.

The silent majority. Which is annoying.

[reepicheep]

SOF does devalue the game and it's meaning, but after the dominance of gambling, widespread luring and trash talking and antisocialness, integrity and fair play is not existant, thus I don't care about SOF.

 

Am I for SOF? Not entirely but I don't see the massive deal over it.

Matter of perspective. I think integrity and fair play definitely exists, and in fact could well be that the majority of people who play do play fairly.

Maybe in the last year now that botting, gamblers have been cleared up. But prior to that it was terrible. Not a great community for someone starting up, mind.

Botting and gambling made up some part of the Runescape community. It'd be silly to say that while there were still many bots and gamblers everybody joined in.

It poisoned Runescape, as it affected the whole economy, produced extra competition for resources, and gamblers spammed the GE. The thought of gambling to become rich on RS didnt suit me

And it probably didn't suit many people. Gamblers and bots were a problem, but they were only a part of Runescape. There are and were always plenty of reputable scapers, and they were probably the majority.

The silent majority. Which is annoying.

Whether it is annoying or not isn't the point.

[Jacky]

Yes it is. Because Botters/Gamblers have a much more bigger visual impact, thus can make it seem like everyone is like this.

[reepicheep]

Yes it is. Because Botters/Gamblers have a much more bigger visual impact, thus can make it seem like everyone is like this.

But we were talking about how the majority of players is or isn't a fair player. It may seem that everybody is like that, but it doesn't matter.

[Jacky]

SOF doesnt matter either.

[reepicheep]

SOF doesnt matter either.

Are we really going to repeat this discussion?

[Jj Dynomite]

I'm all over the place in thought here...lol.

 

For starters they can stop updating SOF every month, they'll never hook a new player because of an SOF update..

 

Umm, market the Free to Play game more. People aren't going to play a game like Runescape unless they have a way to try it out for a bit. Face it, Runescape has lost its 12 year old community, most of us have been playing since we were 11-14 and are like 18-25 now. There's nothing wrong with us playing and even us leaving. No one is really taking our place though...that's the problem with it...

 

In my mind, you don't need a high membership price to rake in money and you also don't need complex gamplay or insane graphics to get players either. LoL is free and is basically one of the most popular games right now maybe next to well, my next example, Minecraft, which obviously has sub par graphics and simple gameplay.

 

Jagex really needs to market toward those crowds of people and get 12 year olds off Minecraft and on Runescape.

 

Jagex really ought to be more involved with its community, namely a newer F2P community. Hold events, Clan competitions, Fansite Competitions, F2P competitions, those Machinima competitions like they use to do. Their Twitch community does good and I applaud there use of Twitter and Youtube though I do think they could go beyond that.

 

Seems like I'm stating the obvious but whenever 07 came back I saw ads for it...on Runescape related things i.e. Swiftkit's page, Rs Wikia, etc...They could at least try and advertise away from that.

 

Runescape is generally a game people advertise through word of mouth advertisement in young school age children, seeing as we lost that community, we'll need to penetrate those areas with advertising. I'm not familiar with other countries methodologies but surely there are some gaming forums elsewhere besides the states and the isles we could expose our game to that hasn't been tapped into before? It seems like 90% of players are either American or British...

 

Yeh advertise to get people to log in...then work at making the game fun for new players to keep them logging in. There we go summed up my post in two sentences.

Edited November 3, 2013 by Jj Dynomite

[Jacky]

Aye, it's going in circles. Either way, SOF is here to stay.

[Pureosaur]

Say there will be a huge change that will generate a lot of inceome, spend a whole bunch on advertising, do some interviews with any media interested, give some presentations without much content.

Then:

 

I would probably sell all my stock and abandon ship.

 

Might be best to move to Venezuela afterwards.

 

 

Or did you mean gameplay stuff? Like CEO's care about that, they're there for the money, not to micromanage things.

Edited November 20, 2013 by Pureosaur

[Sobend]

Or did you mean gameplay stuff? Like CEO's care about that, they're there for the money, not to micromanage things.

I meant head of Runescape, not Jagex CEO.

[Starlight]

Remove eoc

[Shooter585]

Remove eoc

Putting whether or not it is in the best interests of the game aside, they'd really look like morons if they did that. They added PvP wilderness back after removing it, but in that case they justified it by saying they could handle the bots with anti-bot software now. I don't know how they'd justify removing eoc without saying "my bad"

[Sobend]

Am I the only person who thinks they acted too late with EOC? It should have been earlier; the game was outdated even in November 2012 which is why they had to put in EOC. I'm not a huge fan of EOC either but they had to do it to keep up. I really never understood the whole hoopla about EOC. If you don't like EOC play 07scape.

[Starlight]

Am I the only person who thinks they acted too late with EOC? It should have been earlier; the game was outdated even in November 2012 which is why they had to put in EOC. I'm not a huge fan of EOC either but they had to do it to keep up. I really never understood the whole hoopla about EOC. If you don't like EOC play 07scape.

 

EOC killed Pvp, Minigames, most of the weapons/armour are useless now, pure community is dead....Sure i would play 07scape if i didn't have to start from 0.

 

Putting whether or not it is in the best interests of the game aside, they'd really look like morons if they did that. They added PvP wilderness back after removing it, but in that case they justified it by saying they could handle the bots with anti-bot software now. I don't know how they'd justify removing eoc without saying "my bad"

 

The amount of players online compared to what it was before eoc makes them look like morons already, sure most of bots are gone, but you can't say many players haven't quit.

[Sobend]

Am I the only person who thinks they acted too late with EOC? It should have been earlier; the game was outdated even in November 2012 which is why they had to put in EOC. I'm not a huge fan of EOC either but they had to do it to keep up. I really never understood the whole hoopla about EOC. If you don't like EOC play 07scape.

 

EOC killed Pvp, Minigames, most of the weapons/armour are useless now, pure community is dead....Sure i would play 07scape if i didn't have to start from 0.

Sure okay that's why I prefer pre-EOC Runescape, but I think EOC isn't at fault for most of that (except for pures). People just refused to change to EOC and stopped. Besides, pking was already on a downward trend.

 

I also think you are exaggerating the amount of people who quit due to EOC.