Choosing a laptop.

[chaosor]

So basically, my computer has started to slow down, and the battery died (I did get another battery though), and I was thinking, I wanted to upgrade my laptop, but with the parts I was looking for, I was told I might as well buy a new laptop. Right now, there are 2 I am looking at on Newegg, and I'm going to a local PC shop to check his prices and what he offers. I basically will keep my current laptop as a backup. But here are the laptops I'm looking at now:

 

ASUS

 

MSI

 

 

I'm leaning towards the Asus, because I have always heard good things about Asus, where as I have barely heard anything at all about MSI. But I wanted to hear your guys' opinions.

Edited July 2, 2015 by chaosor

[Bwauder]

I havent used or heard much either way about MSI laptops, but the piecemeal hardware was always decent enough, & for the small amount of extra $ the boost on the cpu & graphics over the ASUS justifies its purchase ( as well as possibly a bit more longevity as far as gaming demands) .

[Yuanrang]

I'm leaning towards the Asus, because I have always heard good things about Asus, where as I have barely heard anything at all about MSI. But I wanted to hear your guys' opinions.

This is a pretty stupid idea. It is basically saying you would pick an Apple phone over an Android-based phone, simply because of brand recognition and popularity. The real question is: What are you looking for in a laptop? Pure hardware performance? Layout of keyboard? Cooling design?

 

There are a ton of different variables you should consider, and quite frankly going by brand recognition alone is generally a bad idea. I would strongly recommend you to go to r/SuggestALaptop, fill out their question form and make a post about it. Basically, the form you fill out is to make you consider what you want in your laptop, and what elements and factors are important for you.

 

That said, I am pretty damn pleased with my MSI GE72 2QF. The thing packs a lot of power for the price I paid, not to mention I love the cooling design on it. The only thing that took some getting used to was the keyboard layout of the integrated Steelseries keyboard, but other than that, I am more than pleased with it.

[Toto]

If you're looking at stuff in this price range, why not just get a desktop computer and a netbook for when portability is needed?

[20000_Posts]

I have an earlier version of the Asus, it's pretty sweet. Asus has always done an amazing job with cooling which is crucial for a gaming laptop.

 

I was just watching a review on the new Asus today:

[chaosor]

I havent used or heard much either way about MSI laptops, but the piecemeal hardware was always decent enough, & for the small amount of extra $ the boost on the cpu & graphics over the ASUS justifies its purchase ( as well as possibly a bit more longevity as far as gaming demands) .

Thanks. Yeah the small price difference and the higher specs are why I am considering it.

I'm leaning towards the Asus, because I have always heard good things about Asus, where as I have barely heard anything at all about MSI. But I wanted to hear your guys' opinions.

This is a pretty stupid idea. It is basically saying you would pick an Apple phone over an Android-based phone, simply because of brand recognition and popularity. The real question is: What are you looking for in a laptop? Pure hardware performance? Layout of keyboard? Cooling design?

 

There are a ton of different variables you should consider, and quite frankly going by brand recognition alone is generally a bad idea. I would strongly recommend you to go to r/SuggestALaptop, fill out their question form and make a post about it. Basically, the form you fill out is to make you consider what you want in your laptop, and what elements and factors are important for you.

 

That said, I am pretty damn pleased with my MSI GE72 2QF. The thing packs a lot of power for the price I paid, not to mention I love the cooling design on it. The only thing that took some getting used to was the keyboard layout of the integrated Steelseries keyboard, but other than that, I am more than pleased with it.

I was looking at computers on newegg, and filled out the stuff I wanted. These 2 computers are the 2 that have everything I want, in my price range. I just mentioned the brand preference, because of the 2, idk which to go for, and that I don't know anything about MSI, but I've heard alot of Asus. It's a smart thing to do when buying products, especially technology. Yeah, maybe both computers have what I want, but if one company has a crappy reputation (errors in products, crappy customer service, false warranties, etc.), obviously I would want to go with the more reputable company, right?

The reason I do this, is because I know some people who have ignored brand name, and bought just for the price and specs. Like my aunt and uncle bought a TV (I don't remember the brand, but I remembers it wasn't one of the big ones like LG or Samsung). less than a year later, their TV completely stopped working (it turned on, but no picture or sound). They ended up getting a TV from a reputable brand.

In this case, I'm trying to decide between these 2 computers, and the MSI seems like a better choice based on the specs (but I'm not as knowledgeable about computer hardware as some of you are, which is why I'm asking), but I've barely heard anything about the company, even though they make seemingly great laptops (based on the looks of this computer and the overview page on another of their computers), which sparks my suspicion. But I've heard of Asus, and know they make good computers. Thanks for mentioning the cooling though. And I'm glad your MSI works well.

If you're looking at stuff in this price range, why not just get a desktop computer and a netbook for when portability is needed?

I originally was thinking of this, but I've found reasons not to do this, even though I really want to. First off, the price of a desktop, a 1080p monitor, accessories, and netbook would run me the same, if not more money, and I don't have room for the tower at my parent's house or in my apartment. I currently use my laptop on the dining room table, and my parents don't want the tower on the carpet or on the table. And in my apartment, the "foot stand" on my desk is to small to support the tower, and I also don't want my laptop on the carpet. If I had the right kind of desk than it would definitely be an option.

I have an earlier version of the Asus, it's pretty sweet. Asus has always done an amazing job with cooling which is crucial for a gaming laptop.

 

I was just watching a review on the new Asus today:

So I take it you would choose the Asus? I'll watch the youtube video you provided later, I'm on very choppy internet right now (it takes 5-10 minutes to load a 2 minute yt vid at 480p

[20000_Posts]

Yes I would choose the Asus. I've seen some good things about the MSIs but I've never been a fan of the build quality on them and the cooling has never impressed me.

[Chaoss]

If you're looking at stuff in this price range, why not just get a desktop computer and a netbook for when portability is needed?

Some people don't have room to house a desktop/monitor setup. I live in what is essentially a glorified closet at college and while, yeah, I can probably find a spot to put a desktop, a laptop just makes so much more sense.

 

I think it's just nicer to have an all-in-one machine than two different ones.

 

Back on topic, I'm a big fan of Asus. My current laptop is 4 years old from them, and I've never had a problem with it. That MSI you put up is also a really solid choice, and I think either way you choose will be fine for what you're trying to do with it.

[Jure]

You won't go wrong with either of those. Both are good brands, MSI is maybe more targeted at gamers alike and it may be a bit more $$$ in the end because of that. Anyway, both are good choices.

[chaosor]

Thanks everyone for your input. This Friday I'm going to a computer shop that my family goes to, to price what they will charge for a laptop of similar build. But chances are, I will be choosing one of these 2. But as for the prices, what do you guys think of the pricing for the computers, as far as specs goes?

Yes I would choose the Asus. I've seen some good things about the MSIs but I've never been a fan of the build quality on them and the cooling has never impressed me.

Just wondering, what's wrong with their cooling?

[20000_Posts]

Thanks everyone for your input. This Friday I'm going to a computer shop that my family goes to, to price what they will charge for a laptop of similar build. But chances are, I will be choosing one of these 2. But as for the prices, what do you guys think of the pricing for the computers, as far as specs goes?

Yes I would choose the Asus. I've seen some good things about the MSIs but I've never been a fan of the build quality on them and the cooling has never impressed me.

Just wondering, what's wrong with their cooling?

It's just a generic laptop cooling. From my experiences, I've never seen them able to properly keep laptops cool over multiple years. They just easily pick up dust if not cleaned out constantly and since they're not as good as cooling to begin with, they can cook your components if you're not careful.

 

Asus is one of the few companies that has a really good design when it comes to cooling.

[Yuanrang]

Asus is one of the few companies that has a really good design when it comes to cooling.

That is pretty subjective. My stepbrother had an ASUS gaming PC and his hardware got fried 3 times in 2 years because of awful design. Every single laptop brand tend to have awful cooling implemented, and if you intend to use a laptop as a desktop for continued and intensive use, you should get a cooling pad which solves that issue outright.

[Egghebrecht]

Asus is one of the few companies that has a really good design when it comes to cooling.

That is pretty subjective. My stepbrother had an ASUS gaming PC and his hardware got fried 3 times in 2 years because of awful design. Every single laptop brand tend to have awful cooling implemented, and if you intend to use a laptop as a desktop for continued and intensive use, you should get a cooling pad which solves that issue outright.

or get a mac

 

if you keep your old laptop you might want to see if you aren't better off with a desktop instead

only buy a laptop if you need everything everywhere

for the rest tablets and even smartphones became much more efficient

 

if you need it in calss then a laptop is a good idea

but that doesn't have to be the newest thing possible, it's just for word and interent after all...

and your old one already covers that base perfectly

 

/me never ever understood why people prefer laptops but never take them outside their home...

[chaosor]

Asus is one of the few companies that has a really good design when it comes to cooling.

That is pretty subjective. My stepbrother had an ASUS gaming PC and his hardware got fried 3 times in 2 years because of awful design. Every single laptop brand tend to have awful cooling implemented, and if you intend to use a laptop as a desktop for continued and intensive use, you should get a cooling pad which solves that issue outright.

or get a mac

 

if you keep your old laptop you might want to see if you aren't better off with a desktop instead

only buy a laptop if you need everything everywhere

for the rest tablets and even smartphones became much more efficient

 

if you need it in calss then a laptop is a good idea

but that doesn't have to be the newest thing possible, it's just for word and interent after all...

and your old one already covers that base perfectly

 

/me never ever understood why people prefer laptops but never take them outside their home...

As I stated already, I don't have the room for a desktop right now. Trust me, if I could, I would. But I still have another 2 years of college left, meaning 2 more years in my apartment or my parent's house on break, and neither of those has a spot for a desktop (the only spot available for a desktop at my parent's is occupied already by their desktop)

[Yuanrang]

As I stated already, I don't have the room for a desktop right now. Trust me, if I could, I would. But I still have another 2 years of college left, meaning 2 more years in my apartment or my parent's house on break, and neither of those has a spot for a desktop (the only spot available for a desktop at my parent's is occupied already by their desktop)

Can you not buy a desk and put in your own room? :P

[Egghebrecht]

As I stated already, I don't have the room for a desktop right now. Trust me, if I could, I would. But I still have another 2 years of college left, meaning 2 more years in my apartment or my parent's house on break, and neither of those has a spot for a desktop (the only spot available for a desktop at my parent's is occupied already by their desktop)

 

the asus laptop you are linking is hardly a laptop, it's more an all in one desktop...

 

17.3" is huuuuge for a laptop

and it's bloody expensive

and i don't get why really

 

the screen is low to mediocore it only being a full HD screen (I replaced my HD screen for a 5k one recently)

 

the fact that it has an ssd HD is good but that one is much too big, there is no point in having 512GB SSD and 1TB normal hard disk, 128GB SDD is more than enough...

that is waste of money because that shizzle is expensive

 

So try to see if you can reduce that at least since it really is wasted money

 

and I see it is exactly the same for the other laptop

same kind of low resolution screen and rediculously big SSD drive

 

so if you really want a laptop both options seem fine to me but you will get a shizzlety screen and a cumbersome heavyweigth which you'll never take with you

[chaosor]

As I stated already, I don't have the room for a desktop right now. Trust me, if I could, I would. But I still have another 2 years of college left, meaning 2 more years in my apartment or my parent's house on break, and neither of those has a spot for a desktop (the only spot available for a desktop at my parent's is occupied already by their desktop)

Can you not buy a desk and put in your own room? :P

No room in my room at my parent's house for a desk, and my room at my apartment has a desk, but the foot stand on the desk is too flimsy/small to hold a tower, and I don't like the idea of the tower sitting on carpet. Plus when I come home on the weekends, it would be more troublesome to transport than a laptop.

As I stated already, I don't have the room for a desktop right now. Trust me, if I could, I would. But I still have another 2 years of college left, meaning 2 more years in my apartment or my parent's house on break, and neither of those has a spot for a desktop (the only spot available for a desktop at my parent's is occupied already by their desktop)

 

the asus laptop you are linking is hardly a laptop, it's more an all in one desktop...

 

17.3" is huuuuge for a laptop

and it's bloody expensive

and i don't get why really

 

the screen is low to mediocore it only being a full HD screen (I replaced my HD screen for a 5k one recently)

 

the fact that it has an ssd HD is good but that one is much too big, there is no point in having 512GB SSD and 1TB normal hard disk, 128GB SDD is more than enough...

that is waste of money because that shizzle is expensive

 

So try to see if you can reduce that at least since it really is wasted money

 

and I see it is exactly the same for the other laptop

same kind of low resolution screen and rediculously big SSD drive

 

so if you really want a laptop both options seem fine to me but you will get a shizzlety screen and a cumbersome heavyweigth which you'll never take with you

4/5k screens aren't exactly cheap; the laptops I found with the specs I want and that kind of resolution were roughly $500 more. And for right now, 4k is ahead of it's time still. In the future, I do hope to get a 4k screen, but right now, I don't feel I want/need it badly enough.

 

I haven't really looked at other sites other than Newegg, but on Newegg, those computers are the only ones available with the specs I want.. I didn't put the ssd size in..but I do want the SSD.

[20000_Posts]

Hahaha 128gb is enough? I've almost filled my 512gb SSDs. GTA 5 needs an ssd and is 60gb.

 

The Asus has a nice IPS display. And you pay the premium for the build quality and cooling.

[Jord]

If you're absolutely set on purchasing a laptop then I'd suggest looking into MSI for sure. They've got some great builds and honestly they're the only manufacturer I've seen that can actually make a laptop that has efficient cooling along with a powerful GPU.

[Kelly Ann]

Some reason I had more bad luck with Asus lol But maybe you will have better luck. =)

[Guest Huangping]

I‘d like to choose MSI,because i have some bad experience with asus two years ago.:)